1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Yes, sir. This is FAA calling from Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:08,000 Yes, sir. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:18,000 We had a gentleman call about 8.35 this evening to report a low-level craft about tree level. 4 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:25,000 And what he thought he saw was like a ball of fire, and also associated with it was a loud wind. 5 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:31,000 And it seemed to be something from the, like an exhaust, like a gettison booster. 6 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:32,000 Yes. 7 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:38,000 And he said as it moved from east to west, it was just about tree top level. 8 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:48,000 And we had the police check it out, and they thought possibly it was a low-flying aircraft may have crashed, you know, because of the redness of the booster effect, I guess. 9 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:49,000 Right. 10 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:55,000 I have the gentleman that his name and the telephone number, and I just want to call him. 11 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,000 Yes, sir, we would. 12 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,000 Okay, the gentleman reporting it, his name is... 13 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,000 Thank you very much. 14 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,000 Okay, sir. 15 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:02,000 Hello, reporting center. 16 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,000 This is Harrisburg, Pennsylvania calling. 17 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,000 Yes. 18 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,000 My name is from a police officer here in Susquehanna Township. 19 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,000 Yes, sir. 20 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:14,000 I understand that you want any reporting of flying saucers or anything similar to that. 21 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,000 Yes, sir. 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,000 Okay, what information do you want? 23 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:28,000 We got a report and a drawing from a young boy of seven years old and also the father of what is similar to a flying saucer. 24 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,000 Yes. 25 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,000 Okay, I'd like to have their name and address or phone number. 26 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,000 Okay, their phone number is... 27 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,000 And what time was that? 28 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:41,000 That was at 8.35 p.m. of the Easter Standard Time. 29 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,000 8.35, okay. 30 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,000 All right, sir, we'll get in contact with him. 31 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,000 Okay, do you want their name? 32 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,000 Okay. 33 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,000 All right, the man's name is... 34 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,000 All right, sir, we sure appreciate this. 35 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,000 We'll contact them and see what they got. 36 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,000 Right, well, I'm at the house right now. 37 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:06,000 We thought maybe it was a plane down or something like that, but what they're describing is, you know, big ball of fire and that stuff, and then they come up with a photograph. 38 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,000 It's similar to a flying saucer, you know, what we've read and, you know, seen about. 39 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,000 And the FAA said to him, well, let's get a hold of you. 40 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,000 Okay, well, I'll tell you what we'll do. 41 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,000 We'll call back... 42 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,000 Is that phone clear now? 43 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,000 We'll be... 44 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,000 I'll hang up. 45 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,000 I'll... I'm at their house right now. 46 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,000 Okay, then we'll give them a call back. 47 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,000 Good enough, sir. 48 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:26,000 Thank you very much. 49 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:27,000 What was the name of this place, sir? 50 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,000 UFO Reporting Center. 51 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,000 Okay. 52 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,000 Thank you. 53 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,000 All right, thank you. 54 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,000 This is the UFO Reporting Center calling. 55 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,000 Right. 56 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,000 I wonder if we could get a description of what happened there tonight. 57 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,000 Okay, at approximately 8.35 p.m. 58 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,000 Uh-huh. 59 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,000 Hang on. 60 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,000 Somebody might talk to you. 61 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:50,000 At approximately 8.35 p.m., my wife and son heard a whining noise going over the top 62 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,000 of our house, heading in the east-west direction. 63 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,000 Uh-huh. 64 00:02:55,000 --> 00:03:02,000 And it was following a new expressway that we were having built across our area. 65 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,000 Now, my wife only heard the whining. 66 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:11,000 I was in the house and my son started hollering and calling for me. 67 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:17,000 I ran out approximately 300 feet down the driveway onto a main road where there are 68 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,000 no trees to obstruct the view. 69 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:20,000 Yes. 70 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:29,000 I saw a ball of red fire with a tail, a trail, like a vapor trail and a jet, only red, like 71 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,000 it was red residue coming out of it. 72 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,000 Uh-huh. 73 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,000 Uh, it was heading due west. 74 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:43,000 It was not dropping or gaining altitude and it was not weathering left or right, north 75 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,000 or south. 76 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,000 Yes. 77 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:53,000 Okay, I thought it could have been a booster or perhaps a plane in trouble, but my wife 78 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:59,000 said that she heard this whining noise, that she was under the trees and didn't get a look 79 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,000 at it. 80 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,000 And all I saw was a ball going forward. 81 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:09,000 My son said that it was right above the tree top and he saw it and I said, well, what kind 82 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:10,000 of airplane was it? 83 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:14,000 He said it wasn't an airplane, it was a ship. 84 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:20,000 Now, he said, okay, well, if you think that's what it was, you're going to have to draw a 85 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,000 picture of it yourself. 86 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:27,000 So he did and then through his explanation to me of his picture, he's seven and a half 87 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,000 years old. 88 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,000 Uh-huh. 89 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:38,000 And then he drew what would be starting off with a circle, a total ball, putting a nose 90 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:45,000 cone on the one end of it and three jet engines on the other end of it. 91 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:56,000 Then you would have one foot pod, kind of like the space shuttles and stuff that land in 92 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,000 the sand. 93 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,000 Yes. 94 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:03,000 And then he drew a third pod in the back and two foot pods on the front, about a third 95 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,000 of the way back on the nose cone. 96 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,000 Okay. 97 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:13,000 He said that underneath, between the three foot pods, there was a purple light. 98 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,000 On each one? 99 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,000 No, between the three pods. 100 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,000 Oh, between the three, okay. 101 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:25,000 Okay, now, there was a red exhaust of some type coming out of it. 102 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:35,000 And the top of the ball in this top center had like a window in it because it was right 103 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,000 above, it went right above him. 104 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:45,000 And it just traveled straight on out over our land, across the main road, across the 105 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:49,000 track, which is a community college, and then out across the river. 106 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:54,000 It was traveling about the speed of the normal passenger jet because we have lived in a flight 107 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,000 path before and I have been in sewer patrol. 108 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,000 Yes. 109 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:04,000 I thought it was a booster because of that, but it just kept on going straight instead 110 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,000 of falling. 111 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:12,000 He said that since it was three top high or slightly above, that it looked like it was 112 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:18,000 as big as a car, which I would say 15 or 20 feet long. 113 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:19,000 Yes. 114 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:27,000 So I was asking the go and draw what he won and what he had seen, and I made my own sketches 115 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:31,000 from his for the placement here. 116 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:36,000 Immediately when I got in there, I talked to my wife, found out all the information I 117 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:42,000 could gather, and called the flight tower at our nearest airport in case there was a plane 118 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:48,000 down because, I mean, a burning plane or something like that, a child can see things. 119 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:56,000 But they said there is no such animal in our area and there has been no flight class path 120 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,000 planned over our area. 121 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,000 Okay. 122 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:04,000 Now, when you watched the object, did you watch it until it disappeared in the distance? 123 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,000 Yes. 124 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,000 It totally disappeared in the distance. 125 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,000 It was going slow. 126 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,000 It wasn't going like one of the fighter jets. 127 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:16,000 It was going the speed of one of the passenger jets. 128 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,000 Okay. 129 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:24,000 And it took about a minute to a minute and a half to disappear out in the horizon due west. 130 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:32,000 We have a mountain range to go over and the trail just kept going right out over the mountain range. 131 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,000 Okay. 132 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,000 Is this handy? 133 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:40,000 That is, I'll get him here. 134 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,000 Hello. 135 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,000 Hi. 136 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,000 How are you tonight? 137 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,000 Good. 138 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,000 I heard you saw something in the sky. 139 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,000 Yes. 140 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,000 Okay. 141 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:55,000 Right from the beginning, when you first saw it or heard about it, would you describe exactly everything that you can? 142 00:07:55,000 --> 00:08:03,000 It was flying over a tree top and I went to go get my dad. 143 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,000 He came and ran up the driveway. 144 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,000 Uh-huh. 145 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:12,000 He went through the other side of the road. 146 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,000 It looked like it went down, but it didn't. 147 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:22,000 It was going straight and like, flame was coming off the back of it. 148 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,000 Uh-huh. 149 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:29,000 And I can't explain why it looked like you have to get my dad to get up there. 150 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,000 Yeah, he did. 151 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,000 Okay, did you hear the sounds that your mom and dad heard? 152 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,000 Yeah. 153 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:36,000 Okay. 154 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:43,000 And everything that you have described to your dad and how it was made and constructed, 155 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,000 that was just about it? 156 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,000 Yeah. 157 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,000 Okay. 158 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,000 Have you ever seen one of these before? 159 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,000 No. 160 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,000 Okay. 161 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,000 Can I talk to your daddy again? 162 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:52,000 Okay. 163 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,000 Hello. 164 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,000 Yes, sir. 165 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,000 Are you? 166 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,000 Yes. 167 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,000 Okay. 168 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:04,000 Hello fellas, he's seven and a half and approximately five to six months ago, he was used by a lot of people. 169 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:13,000 He was used by the police in another township in identifying a person who was molesting children. 170 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,000 Uh-huh. 171 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:21,000 He had identified the car, the carrer, and described the person driving. 172 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:28,000 And they said that it corresponded with everything that was told by other people and parents. 173 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:36,000 So, as far as his description goes, if it weren't for something like that, you know, I would have just discounted it and left it go. 174 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:45,000 But since he has been, even in school and out at home, fairly reliable as far as his visual contact. 175 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,000 Right. 176 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:52,000 I mean, I didn't see anything except a red ball like the rear end of a rocket or a booster. 177 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,000 And it just kept disappearing directly away from me. 178 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,000 Right. 179 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:02,000 If it had fallen, you know, I think it was something that was wrecked. 180 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,000 Something blew up. 181 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,000 What? 182 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:12,000 It had an awful loud whine, she said, like a turbine. 183 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,000 Okay. 184 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,000 Did that, was the whine steady or did it fluctuate? 185 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,000 Was it steady or did it fluctuate? 186 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,000 Totally steady. 187 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,000 Okay. 188 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,000 Very good. 189 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,000 Okay, Mr. 190 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:29,000 We have an extensive questionnaire which is key to our data bank program. 191 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:35,000 I wonder if you and your son and wife could get together and fill one of these in for us. 192 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,000 Definitely. 193 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,000 Okay, beautiful. 194 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,000 All right. 195 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,000 I'm supposed to tell you that he's an A student in art. 196 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:48,000 Whatever he draws is usually what it looks like. 197 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,000 Okay. 198 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,000 Then this is what makes him a good observer. 199 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,000 Right. 200 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,000 Right. 201 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,000 That's a rarity with people. 202 00:10:55,000 --> 00:11:00,000 Okay, sir, is there anything else you'd like to add to that? 203 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,000 No, no there isn't. 204 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:15,000 I simply had heard that the Federal Aeronautics Board is finally releasing the word that there is reports on things that they cannot count other than UFO. 205 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,000 Uh-huh. 206 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,000 Now they had been holding it back. 207 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:26,000 Is there any information available that the public could get on these kind of reports? 208 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:31,000 Okay, there are two organizations in this country that put out excellent publications. 209 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,000 Uh-huh. 210 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,000 Would you like me to send you their name and address? 211 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,000 Yes, I would. 212 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,000 Along with the questionnaire. 213 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:37,000 Okay, very good. 214 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:47,000 And then there is also one foreign publication, which is a very professional SWCC magazine, which also is an excellent publication, which comes out in Great Britain. 215 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,000 I'll include that also. 216 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:53,000 No, I've never had any contact with this. 217 00:11:53,000 --> 00:12:01,000 I mean, I've seen Jets so low that I could see the man, his helmet, and see him waving to me. 218 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,000 Right. 219 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:11,000 Okay, a little fella told my wife that it was so low, you know, treetop high. 220 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,000 Okay. 221 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:18,000 He thought it was going to land down in the woods, which is the Hasburg area community college. 222 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:24,000 But it just, when he ran for me and I ran outside, it was just continuing straight. 223 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:30,000 And it just, the vapor trail just barely made it over the top of the mountain. 224 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,000 Okay, very good. 225 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:38,000 All right, sir, well, we sure appreciate you taking time to talk to us and we'll get that information in the mail right away. 226 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,000 Thank you. 227 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,000 Thank you very much. 228 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:41,000 Bye-bye.